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03:35:59 PM Alaska Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 7, 2010                                                                                          
                           3:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lesil McGuire, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Thomas Wagoner                                                                                                          
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jay Ramras                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA COMMERCIAL FISHERIES ENTRY COMMISSION                                                                                  
 Bruce Twomley                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BIG GAME COMMERCIAL SERVICES BOARD                                                                                            
 Robert D. Mumford, Anchorage                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BOARD OF FISHERIES                                                                                                            
 Thomas G. Kluberton, Talkeetna                                                                                                 
 Claude "Vince" Webster                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BOARD OF GAME                                                                                                                 
 Ben Grussendorf                                                                                                                
 Allen Barrette                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE TWOMLEY, Commissioner                                                                                                     
Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC)                                                                                    
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented background in support of his re-                                                                
appointment to the Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC).                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT D. MUMFORD, Member                                                                                                       
Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                                              
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented background in support of his re-                                                                
appointment to the Big Game Commercial Services Board.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
AARON BLOOMQUIST, representing himself                                                                                          
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Supported  Mr. Mumford's  re-appointment  to                                                            
the  Big  Game   Commercial  Services  Board  and   supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment to the Board of Game.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS G. KLUBERTON                                                                                                             
Nominee to the Board of Fisheries                                                                                               
Talkeetna, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Presented   background  in  support  of  his                                                            
nomination to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ROD ARNO, Executive Director                                                                                                    
Alaska Outdoor Council                                                                                                          
No stated address                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr. Kluberton's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of  Fisheries and  supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to                                                              
the Board of Game.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DAVID GOGGIA, President                                                                                                         
Kenai River Professional Guides Association                                                                                     
Kenai, AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr. Kluberton's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Fisheries  and Mr. Webster's re-appointment  to the Board                                                              
of Fisheries.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MONTE ROBERTS, representing himself                                                                                             
Soldotna, AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr. Kluberton's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Fisheries  and Mr. Webster's appointment to  the Board of                                                              
Fisheries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RICKY GEASE, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Kenai River Sport Fishing Association, Inc.                                                                                     
Soldotna, AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr. Kluberton's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Fisheries  and Mr. Webster's re-appointment  to the Board                                                              
of Fisheries.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CLAUDE "VINCE" WEBSTER, Chairman                                                                                                
Alaska Board of Fisheries                                                                                                       
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Presented   background  in  support  of  his                                                            
reappointment to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
BEN GRUSSENDORF                                                                                                                 
Sitka, AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION  STATEMENT: Presented  background in  support of  his re-                                                            
appointment to the Board of Game.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WADE WILLIS, representing himself                                                                                               
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT: Supported  Mr.  Grussendorf's appointment  to                                                            
the Board  of Game and opposed  Mr. Barrette's appointment  to the                                                              
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA WINKLEY, representing herself                                                                                           
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT: Supported  Mr.  Grussendorf's appointment  to                                                            
the Board  of Game and opposed  Mr. Barrette's appointment  to the                                                              
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MARYBETH HOLLEMAN, representing herself                                                                                         
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT: Supported  Mr.  Grussendorf's appointment  to                                                            
the Board of  Game, and opposed Mr. Barrette's  appointment to the                                                              
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
RICK STEINER, representing himself                                                                                              
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT: Supported  Mr.  Grussendorf's appointment  to                                                            
the Board  of Game and opposed  Mr. Barrette's appointment  to the                                                              
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
NANCY BALE, representing herself                                                                                                
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Grussendorf's and  opposed Mr.                                                            
Barrette's appointment to the Board of Game.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALLEN BARRETTE                                                                                                                  
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Presented   background  in  support  of  his                                                            
appointment to the Board of Game.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ART GREENWALD, representing himself                                                                                             
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Strongly opposed  Mr. Barrette's  appointment                                                            
to the Board of Game.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
THERESA SAGER-ALBAUGH, representing herself                                                                                     
Mentasta Pass, AK                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COKE WALLACE, representing himself                                                                                              
Healy, AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SHANNON MOORE, representing herself                                                                                             
No stated address                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GERALD BROOKMAN, representing himself                                                                                           
Kenai, AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DANE CROWLEY, Executive Director                                                                                                
Sportsmen for Fish and Wildlife                                                                                                 
Palmer, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KENNY BARBER, representing himself                                                                                              
Palmer, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION  STATEMENT: Supported  Mr. Barrett's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PATTI BARBER, representing herself                                                                                              
Palmer, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION  STATEMENT: Supported  Mr. Barrett's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
NICOLE FLISS, representing herself                                                                                              
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BYRON HALEY, President                                                                                                          
Chitna Dip Netters Association                                                                                                  
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
VINCE HOLTON, Director                                                                                                          
Operations for Alaska Monitoring the Drug Testing                                                                               
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ROGGIE HUNTER, representing himself                                                                                             
North Pole, AK                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM  LARRY,  representing himself,  Fairbanks,  supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment to the Board of Game.                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
THOR  STACEY,  representing   himself,  Wiseman,  said   he  is  a                                                              
registered  hunting  guide  in   Alaska,  opposed  Mr.  Barrette's                                                              
appointment to the Board of Game.                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
NICK  JANS, Juneau  resident, opposed  Mr. Barrette's  appointment                                                              
to the Board of Game.                                                                                                           
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
VIC WALKER, representing himself                                                                                                
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GREG BROWN, representing himself                                                                                                
Juneau, AK and                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
TINA BROWN, representing herself                                                                                                
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
STEVEN FLORY, representing himself                                                                                              
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MIKE TINKER, Member                                                                                                             
Fairbanks Advisory Committee                                                                                                    
Esther, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG COMPEAU, representing himself                                                                                             
No stated address                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
RANDY ZARNKE, President                                                                                                         
Alaska Trappers Association                                                                                                     
No stated address                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BILL BREWER, representing himself                                                                                               
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MELVIN GROVE, representing himself                                                                                              
Big Lake, AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
KELLY WALTERS, representing himself                                                                                             
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LYNETTE MORENO-HINZ, representing herself                                                                                       
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DAVID TURNBULL, representing himself                                                                                            
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
YOLANDA DE LA CRUZ, representing herself                                                                                        
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DICK BISHOP, representing himself                                                                                               
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN SIMPSON, representing himself                                                                                             
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK GRAY, representing himself                                                                                                
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DICK BURLEY, representing himself                                                                                               
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
FRANK ENTSMINGER, representing himself                                                                                          
Tok, AK                                                                                                                         
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BRENT KEITH, representing himself                                                                                               
Healy, AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JACK REAKOFF, representing himself                                                                                              
Wiseman, AK                                                                                                                     
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HANNA RAGELIN, representing herself                                                                                             
Healy, AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION  STATEMENT: Opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment to  the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PAT NOLIN, representing himself                                                                                                 
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JACOB BARRETTE, representing himself                                                                                            
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
TOM SCARBOROUGH, representing himself                                                                                           
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
RAYMOND HEUER, Chairman                                                                                                         
Fairbanks Fish and Game Advisory Committee                                                                                      
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                            
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:33:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI called  the Alaska  State Senate  Resources                                                            
Standing Committee  meeting to order  at 3:33 p.m. Present  at the                                                              
call  to  order  were  Senators   Wagoner,  French,  McGuire,  and                                                              
Wielechowski.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^Alaska Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                                                                   
          ALASKA COMMERCIAL FISHERIES ENTRY COMMISSION                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
3:35:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI  welcomed   Mr.  Twomley  to  the  meeting,                                                              
saying he  is an attorney  who had been  on the Alaska  Commercial                                                              
Fisheries  Entry Commission  (CFEC) since  1982. He was  appointed                                                              
by  Governor  Jay  Hammond  and  reappointed  by  five  succeeding                                                              
governors.  In addition,  he has  served as the  chairman  of CFEC                                                              
from  1983-2005. He  also served  as  a member  of the  Governor's                                                              
Fisheries Cabinet  from 1983-1990.  He asked  Mr. Twomley  what he                                                              
hopes to accomplish if confirmed for another four-year term.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS joined the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE   TWOMLEY,   Commissioner,    Commercial   Fisheries   Entry                                                              
Commission  (CFEC),  said  the work  remains  challenging  and  he                                                              
hoped to continue  protecting the fisheries that  they had already                                                              
limited. He said  the Alaska Supreme Court has made  some of their                                                              
tasks a  little bit  tricky and  he offered  to elaborate  if they                                                              
wanted. He  said they had been  "getting some things  right" given                                                              
their  success rate  on court  appeals and  he is  hoping for  the                                                              
opportunity to continue that task.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:37:31 PM                                                                                                                    
Brief at ease - meeting called back to order at 3:38.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:38:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  moved to  forward Mr. Twomley's  name to  the full                                                              
body with  the usual  disclaimer  that it doesn't  promise  a vote                                                              
for  or against  the  candidate  in that  hearing.  There were  no                                                              
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
               BIG GAME COMMERCIAL SERVICES BOARD                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:38:50 PM                                                                                                                    
^Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                                             
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI welcomed  Robert Mumford  to the  committee                                                              
and said  he had served  with the Alaska  State Troopers  for more                                                              
than 20 years. For  18 of those years he served  with the Fish and                                                              
Wildlife  Protection  Division.  He  is  a  commercial  pilot  and                                                              
previously  worked  as  an  assistant guide.  He  is  currently  a                                                              
member of  the Big  Game Commercial Services  Board. He  asked Mr.                                                              
Mumford  to  tell  them  about   himself  and  what  he  hoped  to                                                              
contribute during a second term.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT D.  MUMFORD, Member,  Big Game  Commercial Services  Board,                                                              
Anchorage, said  he has already  served one  term on the  Big Game                                                              
Commercial  Services Board.  He was  appointed to  be the  liaison                                                              
with  the Alaska  Wildlife Troopers  because of  his past  service                                                              
and he  was able to  help write ethical  standards for  the board.                                                              
He said they are  in the middle of working on  land use issues and                                                              
he  would   like  to   continue  with   that  and  maintain   some                                                              
consistency with the board.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:40:22 PM                                                                                                                    
AARON BLOOMQUIST,  representing himself, said he  has participated                                                              
in most of the  Big Game Commercial Services  Board meetings since                                                              
they  were reinstated.  He supported  Mr. Mumford's  reappointment                                                              
to the  board. He  works really  well  with the public  and  has a                                                              
great background that is useful to the board.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  moved to  forward Mr. Mumford's  name to  the full                                                              
body with  the usual  disclaimer  that it doesn't  promise  a vote                                                              
for  or against  the  candidate  in that  hearing.  There were  no                                                              
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
^Board of Fisheries                                                                                                             
                       BOARD OF FISHERIES                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
3:41:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  welcomed Thomas Kluberton to  the committee                                                              
as a  nominee for the  Board of Fisheries.  He said  Mr. Kluberton                                                              
was  the  chair   of  the  Mat-Su  Borough  Mayor's   Blue  Ribbon                                                              
Sportsman's  Committee from  2006-2009, he  served on the  Borough                                                              
Assembly from 206-2009  and on the Planning Commission  from 2004-                                                              
2006.  He  owns  and  operates   the  Fireweed  Station  in  south                                                              
Talkeetna. The  paper said  he might be  the first nominee  to the                                                              
Board of Fisheries from Talkeetna.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS G.  KLUBERTON, nominee to  the Board of Fisheries,  said he                                                              
was speaking from  Fireweed Station in Talkeetna.  He related that                                                              
his  background in  fisheries  generally  developed his  expertise                                                              
and working  with the Mayor's Blue  Ribbon Committee. A  number of                                                              
those  folks  suggested  that  he  put his  name  forward.  He  is                                                              
interested in expanding  on the informative education  he got with                                                              
that committee  and looks  forward in the  tradition of  the Board                                                              
of Fisheries  to ensure sustainability  and equity in  the state's                                                              
fisheries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:44:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS joined the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:44:16 PM                                                                                                                    
ROD ARNO,  Executive Director, Alaska  Outdoor Council,  said they                                                              
have participated in  the board process since back  when they were                                                              
joint  boards.  He  said  the  Council  supports  Mr.  Kluberton's                                                              
appointment to  the Board of Fisheries.  He got a chance  to watch                                                              
him participate  on  the Mat-Su  Blue Ribbon  Panel, and just  the                                                              
fact that Curt  Menard chose him  to be on it was  significant. He                                                              
was  prepared and  open  to the  public  during public  testimony,                                                              
"which is about all you can ask for."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:45:03 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID   GOGGIA,  President,   Kenai   River  Professional   Guides                                                              
Association, supported  Mr. Kluberton's  appointment to  the Board                                                              
of Fisheries.  He has a background  working in management  and has                                                              
had to listen  to problems and then organize  solutions. The board                                                              
will be hit with  many issues that have complex  solutions and Mr.                                                              
Kluberton has the necessary skills to be a great asset to it.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:46:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MONTE  ROBERTS,  representing  himself,  Soldotna,  said he  is  a                                                              
guide  business owner  and supported  Mr. Kluberton's  appointment                                                              
to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:46:24 PM                                                                                                                    
RICKY  GEASE,  Executive  Director,   Kenai  River  Sport  Fishing                                                              
Association,  said  they  are  a  501(C)(3)  fishery  conservation                                                              
organization  that is very  familiar with  the Board of  Fisheries                                                              
process. He  said Mr.  Kluberton would bring  great skills  to the                                                              
board as  a member;  he has  shown his  ability and dedication  to                                                              
public service on fisheries issues.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI,   finding  no  further   comments,  closed                                                              
public testimony.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH moved  to forward Mr. Kluberton's name  to the full                                                              
body with  the usual  disclaimer  that it doesn't  promise  a vote                                                              
for  or against  the  candidate  in that  hearing.  There were  no                                                              
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:47:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  welcomed Vince Webster to  the committee as                                                              
an appointee  to the  Board of  Fisheries saying  he has  operated                                                              
set and  drift gill nets  in Bristol Bay  since 1984; he  has also                                                              
participated  in  the Togiak  herring,  Cinder River  salmon,  and                                                              
Bristol  Bay   halibut  fisheries   as  well  as   numerous  sport                                                              
fisheries  throughout the  state.  He has  served  on the  Naknek-                                                              
Kvichak Fish  and Game Advisory  Committee (AC) for over  15 years                                                              
including service as its co-chair.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CLAUDE "VINCE"  WEBSTER, nominee to  the Board of  Fisheries, said                                                              
he has  been working in  the board process  for over 18  years and                                                              
is currently  the chair of  the Board of  Fisheries. He  wanted to                                                              
continue  "being  a  steward  of  one  of  the  largest  renewable                                                              
resources in the world."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:49:00 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID  GOGGIA,   Kenai  River  Professional   Guides  Association,                                                              
supported  Mr. Webster's  appointment  to the  Board of  Fisheries                                                              
saying he  is dedicated and  has done a good  job in the  past and                                                              
would probably do a good job in the future.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:49:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MONTE  ROBERTS,  representing  himself,  supported  Mr.  Webster's                                                              
appointment to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:50:01 PM                                                                                                                    
RICKY   GEASE,  Kenai   River  Sportfishing   Association,   Inc.,                                                              
supported Mr. Webster's  reappointment to the Board  of Fisheries.                                                              
He has  done an outstanding  job during his  first term; he  did a                                                              
very good  job as  this year's as  chair, which  is no  easy task.                                                              
He's kept  the board  meeting on  pace and  makes sure  that every                                                              
member  of the public  feels welcome  at the  meetings. He  brings                                                              
good  analytical skills  to issues  and  seeks all  inputs from  a                                                              
variety  of  user  groups  and   then  seeks  to  craft  consensus                                                              
solutions amongst the board members.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI,   finding  no  further   comments,  closed                                                              
public testimony.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  moved to forward  Mr. Webster's name to  the joint                                                              
session with the  usual disclaimer that it doesn't  promise a vote                                                              
for  or against  the  candidate  in that  hearing.  There were  no                                                              
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                         BOARD OF GAME                                                                                      
^Board of Game                                                                                                                  
3:51:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  welcomed Ben  Grussendorf to  the committee                                                              
saying  he is a  former Speaker  of the  House; he  served in  the                                                              
House of Representatives  from 1980-2000. During that  time he was                                                              
chair of  the Rules Committee, a  member of the  Finance Committee                                                              
and  a member  of  the Special  Committee  on  Fisheries. He  also                                                              
served two  terms as mayor  of the City  and Borough of  Sitka and                                                              
two terms as a  Sitka Assembly member. In addition,  he has served                                                              
several terms on the Board of Game including as its chair.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BEN GRUSSENDORF,  nominee  to the  Board of Game,  Sitka,  said he                                                              
grew up in Northern  Minnesota where hunting and  fishing was part                                                              
of his lifestyle  and it stayed  the same in Alaska.  He considers                                                              
himself to be a  naturalist for over 60 years.  The first standing                                                              
committee assignment  he sought when  he was elected to  the House                                                              
was the  Resources Committee and  he greatly enjoyed that  and all                                                              
the work that followed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:53:33 PM                                                                                                                    
WADE WILLIS,  representing himself  from Anchorage,  said he  is a                                                              
former  biologist with  the  Alaska Department  of  Fish and  Game                                                              
(ADF&G)  and has participated  in  the board  process for  about a                                                              
decade.  He saw  Mr. Grussendorf  work very  cooperatively with  a                                                              
very  wide range  of individuals  in  the state;  he finds  middle                                                              
ground very  well. He  is supportive  of the Governor's  positions                                                              
on  wildlife  management,  but   very  prudent  and  moderate  and                                                              
careful about  implementation of some  of the more  aggressive and                                                              
contentious  programs. He  has  found middle  ground  and is  very                                                              
supportive all the residents in the state.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:54:24 PM                                                                                                                    
BARBARA    WINKLEY,    representing   herself,    supported    Mr.                                                              
Grussendorf's reappointment to the Board of Game.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:54:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MARYBETH  HOLLEMAN,  representing  herself,  Fairbanks,  supported                                                              
Mr. Grussendorf's  appointment to the  Board of Game. She  saw him                                                              
at  the Fairbanks  Board  of  Game meeting  and  he  was the  only                                                              
member  that she  felt was  truly listening  to all  sides of  the                                                              
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:55:15 PM                                                                                                                    
RICK STEINER,  representing himself,  said he  was a professor  at                                                              
the  University  of Alaska  for  30  years  and  prior to  that  a                                                              
commercial  fisherman. He  lived  mainly in  rural  areas, and  he                                                              
wholeheartedly  supported  Mr. Grussendorf's  appointment  to  the                                                              
Board  of Game.  "He is  certainly one  of the  more balanced  and                                                              
reasonable members of the board currently."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:55:48 PM                                                                                                                    
NANCY BALE,  representing herself, said  she is a school  nurse in                                                              
Anchorage,  but  for  many  years  she lived  and  worked  in  the                                                              
vicinity of Denali  National Park where she became  the chair of a                                                              
grass  roots organization  of 350  members,  the Denali  Citizens'                                                              
Council  in 2000.  They brought  forth  a proposal  at the  recent                                                              
board  meeting   and  she   had  an   opportunity  to   watch  Mr.                                                              
Grussendorf  in action  at that  meeting; he  is a good  listener,                                                              
knowledgeable about  the resources, and  appears to be a  real and                                                              
honest fan of the public process.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:56:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI,   finding  no  further   comments,  closed                                                              
public testimony.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH moved  to forward  Mr. Grussendorf's  name to  the                                                              
full body  with the  usual disclaimer  that it  doesn't promise  a                                                              
vote for or against  the candidate in that hearing.  There were no                                                              
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:57:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  welcomed Allen  Barrette to the  committee.                                                              
He has been  the owner and  operator of the Fairbanks  Fur Tannery                                                              
for the past 17  years. He is licenses as a taxidermist  and has a                                                              
Class A  assistant guide license.  In 2005  he was elected  to the                                                              
Fairbanks  Fish  and Game  Advisory  Committee,  a seat  he  still                                                              
holds. He  also serves as  chairman of the Trapping  Subcommittee.                                                              
He asked  him to relate what  he hoped to accomplish  if confirmed                                                              
to the Board of Game.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ALLEN BARRETTE,  Fairbanks nominee to  the Board of Game,  said he                                                              
has been  an Alaskan resident  since 1988  and his family  is full                                                              
of  hunters, trappers  and  fishermen; he  owns  and operates  the                                                              
Fairbanks Tannery and  has served six years on  the Fairbanks Fish                                                              
and  Game Advisory  Committee  and  for the  last  four years  was                                                              
chair of  the Trapping subcommittee.  He worked with the  Board of                                                              
Game on many  occasions and enjoys a "great  working relationship"                                                              
with the  professionals at the  Fairbanks Regional  3 Headquarters                                                              
Department of Fish and Game.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  applied to  be on  the board  and was  appointed earlier  this                                                              
year.  He  sat   on  the  board  during  the   winter  meeting  in                                                              
Fairbanks.  Some  people  oppose  his  confirmation  because  they                                                              
believe he  has a conflict of  interest. He hoped  they understood                                                              
how troubling  this was to  him because  it came about  because of                                                              
his vote during  the last board meeting on Proposal  63 that would                                                              
allow trapping on  state land to the northeast of  Denali Park and                                                              
Preserve. It  was supported by the  local Healy and  Middle Nenana                                                              
Advisory  Committee, the  Denali  Advisory Committee,  as well  as                                                              
the Anchorage,  Fairbanks and Delta Junction  Advisory Committees.                                                              
They were  all in  support of  deleting the  buffer zone.  He said                                                              
those  advisory  committee  members   were  also  elected  by  the                                                              
public.  Proposal 63  was  also supported  by  the Ahtna  Regional                                                              
Corporation.  By a  vote of  4 to  3  the measure  passed, and  he                                                              
voted with the majority  to open the area to trapping.  Because of                                                              
that and  the fact  that he owns  a tannery  and sell  traps, some                                                              
people claim  he has  a conflict of  interest. He doesn't  believe                                                              
he has  a conflict because  members of the  board of Game  and all                                                              
boards fall  underneath AS  35.52.110, the  part of the  executive                                                              
branch ethics act which reads:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     1. In  a representative  democracy, the  representatives                                                                   
     are  drawn from  a  society  and therefore,  cannot  and                                                                   
     should not  be without  personal and financial  interest                                                                   
     in decisions and policies of government.                                                                                   
      2. People who serve as public officers retain their                                                                       
     rights to interests of personal or financial nature.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETT said the same statute says:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        Standards of ethical conduct for members of the                                                                         
       executive branch need to distinguish between those                                                                       
    minor   and    inconsequential   conflicts    that   are                                                                    
      unavoidable in a free society and those conflicts of                                                                      
     interest that are substantial and material.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
So,  how do  they  know  the difference  between  substantial  and                                                              
material conflicts,  he asked. Because the statute  tells them the                                                              
difference. The same statute in subsection (d) says:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Stocks or  other ownership  interest in any  business is                                                                   
     presumed  insignificant if  the  value of  the stock  or                                                                   
     other  ownership   interest,  including  an   option  to                                                                   
     purchase or ownership interest, is less than $5,000.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETT  said he  manufactures and sells  wolf traps  and they                                                              
cost $115  each without  chain and  $130 each  with chain.  He has                                                              
sold eight  traps in the  past five years  to individuals  who may                                                              
have trapped  in the Stampede Trail  area and he has  never tanned                                                              
a  wolf  from  the  vicinity  of   the  Denali  buffer  zone.  His                                                              
financial interest  is far below the $5,000-threshold  and this is                                                              
why he  believes he doesn't  have a conflict  of interest  on this                                                              
matter. He  added that  his ethics  officer, Board Chairman  Cliff                                                              
Judkins,  did not think  it was  a problem  nor did the  Assistant                                                              
Attorney  General,  Kevin  Saxby,  both  of  whom  have  years  of                                                              
experience on this issue.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  said he received  about an even number  of emails                                                              
for and against  Mr. Barrett. He is impressed that  he is a family                                                              
man,  an Army  guy  and  a small  business  man. It  appears  that                                                              
people were  concerned about  two things:  the perceived  conflict                                                              
of interest  and his  vote on Proposal  63. He asked  if he  had a                                                              
biological reason for voting the way he did.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  replied yes. ADF&G  biological data showed  that the                                                              
harvest  of wolves  outside  of  the Park  is  not  a problem  for                                                              
sustainability  of  populations or  packs  within  or outside  the                                                              
Park. They also  said viewing opportunities for the  public in the                                                              
Denali National  Park or  Preserve depend  mostly on where  wolves                                                              
den, where  they make their  kills and the predominant  vegetation                                                              
along the viewing  routes. The last pertinent thing  they said was                                                              
"trapping outside  the park  has not been  documented as  a factor                                                              
that affects viewing opportunities inside the park."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS recapped  that  Mr. Barrette  said he  considered                                                              
sustainability and  the viewing opportunities, and  asked if there                                                              
was much public comment on the proposal.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE answered  yes,  from both  sides,  and the  advisory                                                              
committees were all in favor of eliminating the buffer zone.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  remarked  that if everyone  was held  accountable                                                              
for one  vote someone didn't  like they  would all be  in trouble.                                                              
He asked if Mr. Judkins is the ethics officer.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  answered that  he is the  chairman of the  board and                                                              
reviews disclosure  statements that are made on record  prior to a                                                              
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:08:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS asked  if an attorney  was at  the board  meeting                                                              
where he cast his vote for Proposal 63.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE answered  yes, Assistant Attorney General,  Mr. Saxby                                                              
was there.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  said if it is  anything like the  legislature you                                                              
have to  declare your conflict of  interest and make  a statement,                                                              
and asked if he did that.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  answered yes.  Mr. Judkins  had questions  about his                                                              
dealings  on  proposals   that  had  guiding  issues   because  he                                                              
disclosed  that  he  is  a Class  A  guide.  Those  problems  were                                                              
resolved  by the board  attorney and  no one  asked him  to recuse                                                              
himself from Proposal 63.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked if he considered recusing himself.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE answered  no, because  the possibility  that he  had                                                              
tanned  a hide, which  he didn't,  was insignificant,  as  was the                                                              
sale of his traps.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked  if he has a store that  says something like                                                              
"Mr.  Barrette's traps  for sale"  or how  else does  he sell  his                                                              
traps.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  answered that he  has a part  time ad in  the Alaska                                                              
Trappers Magazine,  which he  does only  to support the  magazine.                                                              
Other than that the sale of traps is done through word of mouth.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:10:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS asked  what he  says  to people  who might  think                                                              
that he has a conflict with a board issue.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE  replied  that  this   is  the  first  time  it  has                                                              
happened.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  said it appears to  him that Mr. Barrette  has an                                                              
experience base  that they  want on the  board. He hoped  his name                                                              
was forwarded  and that he got an  opportunity to get  voted on up                                                              
or down.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:12:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FRENCH  went  back  to the  conflict  of  interest  issue                                                              
because  that has come  up in  many of  his communications.  Maybe                                                              
Mr. Barrette  has a different  understanding of subsection  (d) in                                                              
AS 39.52.110  that  says stock or  other ownership  interest  in a                                                              
business  is presumed  to be  insignificant  if the  value of  the                                                              
stock  or  the  other ownership  interest  is  less  than  $5,000.                                                              
Senator French said  he always believed that applied  to the value                                                              
of  the business,  not  that each  incident  would  affect him  by                                                              
$5,000.  He asked  if  Mr. Barrette's  business  in Fairbanks  was                                                              
worth more or less than $5,000, roughly.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked if that was his tannery business.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  clarified that  the statute  means you  can't make                                                              
decisions  on matters  that would  affect your  business if  it is                                                              
worth more  than $5,000.  The ethics  statute, AS 39.52.120,  says                                                              
you "can't take  or withhold official action in order  to affect a                                                              
matter  in  which   the  officer  has  a  personal   or  financial                                                              
interest."  A  financial   interest  here  is  defined   as  being                                                              
significant if it's in total worth more than $5,000.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE responded  that  he is  not  qualified to  interpret                                                              
that and that he took the code of ethics literally.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH said  if he  is elected  to the  board, he  should                                                              
become  familiar  with  the  code of  ethics.  He  should  declare                                                              
conflicts  and get  waivers. That's  the process.  Does that  make                                                              
sense?                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:15:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BARRETTE  responded,  "That's another  explanation  to  these                                                              
statutes."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH asked  if  he understood  that  in general  public                                                              
officials  can't make decisions  that affect  their own  financial                                                              
interests.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE replied  that he  understands that,  but because  he                                                              
was  a new  board member  with  board support  and  help from  the                                                              
Attorney  General's Office  he was  led  to believe  that what  he                                                              
disclosed - "an  insignificant amount of what  people who consider                                                              
profit" - was not a conflict.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  said another  way of putting  it is if  a proposal                                                              
came before  the Board of  Game that he  thought might  affect his                                                              
tannery  but he  thought  it  would only  affect  it  by a  couple                                                              
thousand  dollars, it  wouldn't be  okay for  him to  participate,                                                              
because it's not  how much the proposal affects  his business, but                                                              
rather what his  business is worth. He asked if  he understood the                                                              
distinction.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  replied that if  he is confirmed  he will make  it a                                                              
point to disclose  that to the board  chair and allow  him to make                                                              
that decision.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH said  that wasn't answering his  question, which is                                                              
if he understands  the distinction between making  a decision that                                                              
affects  a  tiny   business  that  might  be  worth   $1,000  (too                                                              
insignificant to worry  about) versus one that is  worth more than                                                              
$5,000, which  has to be disclosed.  The issue is not  how much it                                                              
affects his business, but how much his business is worth.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE responded  that he would take it on  "as a challenge"                                                              
to  make  himself   "perfectly  clear"  on   understanding  ethics                                                              
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:18:18 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FRENCH said  many folks  wrote him  about Mr.  Barrette's                                                              
involvement in  lobbying for passage of  HB 267, and he  asked him                                                              
to comment on his actions and to give him a few details.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  answered that some  people in Fairbanks  have always                                                              
been interested  in  providing access  to the  state lands  on the                                                              
other   side   of   the  Dalton   Highway   corridor.   He   asked                                                              
Representative  Kelly  to  introduce that  issue  for  legislative                                                              
consideration,   and  he  found   little  legislative   or  public                                                              
interest.   So, HB 267  is off the  legislative agenda as  well as                                                              
his agenda.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH asked  what his  involvement was  in getting  that                                                              
legislation sponsored and passed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE replied  that  several  trappers had  problems  with                                                              
being able  to access the country  in which they like  to trap. He                                                              
researched  it and  "made up a  document and  a presentation"  and                                                              
presented it  to Representative Kelly.  He took it from  there and                                                              
testified  on it  once.  It didn't  go anywhere  and  that is  the                                                              
extent of his involvement.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:20:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WAGONER asked  if it  was up  to Mr. Barrett  and he  was                                                              
"King for a  day" is he in favor  of opening up both  sides of the                                                              
Dalton Highway to snow machine access.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE answered  there  is  no public  support  for it  and                                                              
"even if I  was King for a day  I would not go against  the public                                                              
input from this HB 267."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER asked  him to give them a thumbnail  sketch of how                                                              
he feels about the state's biological management of predators.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE  answered  that all  the  current  predator  control                                                              
programs are effective and he likes them.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:21:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  went back to the Dalton  Highway issue, and                                                              
asked when Mr. Barrette  is making decisions how much  he looks at                                                              
the public's or his fellow board members' opinions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  replied that  he weighs  public opinion  heavily. He                                                              
appeals to  the advisory committees  that are there to  advise the                                                              
Board of Game on issues especially pertaining to local areas.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  after  voting in  favor of  revoking                                                              
the  Denali wolf  buffer  zone, he  understood  that Mr.  Barrette                                                              
petitioned  the  board  to  authorize  using  a  snow  machine  to                                                              
harvest wolves in the old buffer zone. Is that accurate?                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE answered  that the  buffer zone  is in  the area  of                                                              
unit 20C  and there  was a proposal  on the  table to  institute a                                                              
predator control  program, which the board failed.  While that was                                                              
on the table  he brought the issue  up as a point of  discussion -                                                              
just "table talk" - not as an amendment or anything else.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if he agreed with a  statement by Mr.                                                              
Judkins who said  "I just cringe at the thought of  a snow machine                                                              
running  down  the  park  boundary  chasing  wolves.  It's  almost                                                              
beyond me."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE replied  that he  didn't  know how  to answer  that,                                                              
because  regardless of  what the  chairman  says, "It's  perfectly                                                              
legal to use a snow machine in Unit 20C for trapping."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if he  has no  problem with  chasing                                                              
down wolves on snow machines and shooting them.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE   answered  that   his  opinion  is   neutral  after                                                              
listening to the advisory committee and public input.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if he voted to authorize  the baiting                                                              
of brown bears.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE answered  because  he was  a new  member and  didn't                                                              
realize  there was  a bear  board policy,  he "made  one of  those                                                              
newbie errors and, yes, I did put that on the table."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if all  other members  of the  board                                                              
strongly opposed it.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  answered that  he took it  back off the  table after                                                              
he was told about the board's bear policy.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if he  amended a  proposal to  allow                                                              
baiting  bears in  Interior Alaska  when  residents, tourists  and                                                              
families are  actively fishing, hiking,  and camping in  the month                                                              
of July.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  answered  yes, he  made such a  proposal "and  there                                                              
was merit to it."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  what  his fellow  colleagues on  the                                                              
board thought of it.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE  answered  that he  thought  "it  was  substantially                                                              
voted down"  because of the  regulatory year being  cumbersome for                                                              
the department  to  reissue bear  bait permits  after July  1 when                                                              
the regulatory changes happen.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:26:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if he  recalled allowing  commercial                                                              
guides to register up to 10 bait stations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  asked how  many bait stations  Alaskans are                                                              
allowed to register.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE  answered  in  Region  3  each  licensed  hunter  is                                                              
allowed up to two bear baits.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if there was a particular  reason Mr.                                                              
Barrette   wanted  to   authorize   potentially  non-resident   or                                                              
commercial  guides to register  more bait  stations than  resident                                                              
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE   replied  that   he  would   have  to   review  the                                                              
discussion, but  he remembered  the majority  of the board  was in                                                              
favor  of allowing  guides  to have  more  bear  baits because  it                                                              
would be safer and more efficient in the field.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if  there  was  any  discussion  of                                                              
whether or  not that  was constitutional  under the state's  equal                                                              
access clause.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE  answered  no,  but  he would  have  to  review  the                                                              
records to be sure.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if   he  would  be  concerned  with                                                              
letting commercial  guides have  more bait stations  than ordinary                                                              
Alaskan residents.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  answered that he voted  to allow the guides  to have                                                              
more bear baits.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if he saw no  constitutional problems                                                              
with that.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  replied  that he would  have to  get a  professional                                                              
review of the constitution.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR    WIELECHOWSKI   asked    if    he   had    professional                                                              
constitutional review before he voted on the issue.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE answered no.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   WIELECHOWSKI  asked   if  there   was  a  question   of                                                              
constitutionality in  the future if  he would ask about  it before                                                              
they vote on it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE answered "very much so."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:29:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if he  voted several times  to reduce                                                              
the amounts necessary for subsistence.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  answered yes.  He said it's  on the record  that the                                                              
board  was working  with the Division  of Subsistence  to  come up                                                              
with plans that seemed reasonable.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if he also voted to  allocate to non-                                                              
resident  use  or to  suppress  resident  use seasons  on  several                                                              
occasions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  what  his philosophy  is in  general                                                              
when  he  is  deciding  allocation  and  whether  game  should  be                                                              
available for resident versus commercial users.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.   BARRETTE    answered   that   he   relies    on   department                                                              
professionals.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:30:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH asked  about a quote from "Backpacker  Magazine" in                                                              
which he  may have  said Genesis  in the first  book of  the Bible                                                              
says  we should  subdue  and control  nature,  that  we should  be                                                              
managers  of the  animals and  the  sin of  Adam and  Eve is  what                                                              
brought that  on. Did he  say it and if  he did, could  he provide                                                              
some explanation or details?                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE  answered yes, he said  that - sloppily.  The meaning                                                              
is that  he believes  game should  be managed  and that  should be                                                              
done  through  professional  data,   input  from  the  public  and                                                              
elected advisory  committees. The opposite of managing  is just to                                                              
"let Mother  Nature  take care of  itself." You  can't manage  for                                                              
sustainability by letting Mother Nature do it.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked  if there is any kind of  biblical foundation                                                              
to his view of wildlife management.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRETTE answered no.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:32:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI opened public testimony.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:32:14 PM                                                                                                                    
ART  GREENWALD,  representing  himself,  Fairbanks,  said  he  has                                                              
lived in  the Interior over  40 years and  has hunted  for several                                                              
of them.  He strongly  opposed Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the                                                              
Board  of  Game. He  said  the  sports  hunter from  Fairbanks  or                                                              
Anchorage likes to  get his caribou or moose and  there is nothing                                                              
wrong  with  that,  but  the  subsistence   hunter  form  Wiseman,                                                              
Anaktuvuk  Pass  and other  rural  communities  needs  to get  his                                                              
caribou  or moose.  "Mr.  Barrette  does not  seem  to grasp  this                                                              
difference  and has  been  a fierce  opponent  of any  subsistence                                                              
preference."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENWALD said  that Mr. Barrette has aggressively  lobbied to                                                              
revoke the Kanuti  control use area designation  near Bettles, and                                                              
the  Division of  Subsistence warned  Mr. Barrette  that prior  to                                                              
such an  action the board  must address meeting  subsistence needs                                                              
in the  region. The  other members  of the  board did not  support                                                              
him in his actions  in that regard. Further, he  voted to increase                                                              
the harvest  in the  Central Alaska  caribou  herd along the  Haul                                                              
road to five  caribou while simultaneously supporting  opening the                                                              
Haul Road control use area to general snow machine access.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  said Mr.  Barrette  voted against  2-4  subsistence sheep  for                                                              
Interior  Native villages  in GMU19  remarking "their  subsistence                                                              
needs are being  met by other things,  but they want to  add sheep                                                              
to it?" Finally,  with Mr. Barrette  on the board, that  leaves no                                                              
representation  whatsoever for  the entire  South Central  region,                                                              
an area holding over one-third of the state's population.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:34:02 PM                                                                                                                    
THERESA  SAGER-ALBAUGH,  representing   herself,  said  she  is  a                                                              
member  of the  Board of  Game from  the Mentasta  Pass area,  and                                                              
supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the  Board of  Game. The                                                              
learning  curve  can be  steep  for  a  new board  member  despite                                                              
previous  involvement.   He  came   to  his  first   meeting  well                                                              
prepared, having  read all  public comments  and all the  advisory                                                              
committee  minutes;   he  understands  the  process.   He  listens                                                              
respectful  and attentively  to public  testimony as  well as  the                                                              
presentations  provided by  the  ADF&G. He  respected  all of  the                                                              
public members testifying  whether they were Native  or non-Native                                                              
and whether  they were  rural or  urban. He  asked good  questions                                                              
that  assisted  the  board  in   making  informed  decisions.  She                                                              
personally observed  that he left  the meeting room each  day with                                                              
a stack  of  paperwork and  new materials  under his  arm to  take                                                              
home to read  and study for the  next day's meeting. He  knows the                                                              
provisions of  the state game  statutes and regulations  very well                                                              
and  he also  know how  they differ  from the  federal game  laws,                                                              
distinctions that can  be very important to the  hunting public in                                                              
Alaska.  He has demonstrated  his  ability to  work well with  the                                                              
ADF&G  through   his  involvement  with  the   Fairbanks  Advisory                                                              
Committee and as chairman of the trapping subcommittee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:36:45 PM                                                                                                                    
COKE  WALLACE, representing  himself, Healy,  said he  has been  a                                                              
licensed professional  hunting guide  all of  his adult  life, and                                                              
has lived  his entire  life in Alaska.  For the  last 18  years he                                                              
has lived  in Healy  right  next to the  buffer zone.  He and  his                                                              
wife run a  sport hunting business  and for 18 years ran  a summer                                                              
tourism  business. He  uses the  resource both  as a  recreational                                                              
and  a professional  hunter/trapper/fisherman.  He  supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment  to the Board  of Game because he  brings a                                                              
wealth of knowledge  to it. He knows the concerns  of rural Alaska                                                              
and  the  importance  of  wildlife to  them.  He  understands  the                                                              
customary  and traditional  uses  of  the wildlife  resources  and                                                              
holds them in high esteem.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wallace said  he is one of the "four rogue  trappers" who were                                                              
going to benefit  from the Denali buffer zone going  away. He said                                                              
it  was  originally  established  without  good  biology.  He  had                                                              
spoken with  the three  other "rogue trappers"  who were  going to                                                              
benefit from  the buffer zone going  away and he knows  they don't                                                              
buy  their trapping  supplies  from Mr.  Barrette  other than  the                                                              
occasional "Number 9 Alaskan" just to add to their collection.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:39:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SHANNON MOORE,  representing  herself, said  being able to  access                                                              
game is  really important to  her and her  family. She  said there                                                              
is a reason  they don't call  "fishing" "catching" and  she didn't                                                              
think  they  wanted  to  change   "hunting"  into  "killing."  She                                                              
opposed Mr.  Barrette's appointment to  the Board of  Game because                                                              
of his  philosophy of  easy game,  a philosophy  that gets  rid of                                                              
competition.  She didn't  know if  people are  just becoming  lazy                                                              
hunters and want to get rid of the predators or what.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
In listening  to Mr.  Barrette and  his explanation and  listening                                                              
to  the questions  from the  chair  and other  senators, she  said                                                              
it's disturbing  to see  that allocations  for Alaskans  are being                                                              
trumped  for  non-resident  guides   or  guides  for  non-resident                                                              
hunters.  "It's not  Alaskan,  it's not  taking  care of  Alaskans                                                              
whether they be subsistence users or not."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:41:10 PM                                                                                                                    
WADE  WILLIS, representing  himself,  said he  ran an  eco-tourism                                                              
business in Alaska  for 14 years, and people on the  Board of Game                                                              
have  to  be  willing  to  represent   all  the  people  not  just                                                              
yourself. He  opposed Mr. Barrette's  appointment because  for him                                                              
it's just his way  or the highway. He said he  listens to regional                                                              
advisory  committees, but  Minto-Nenana  Advisory Committee  chair                                                              
(since  1980)  Ron  Silas  aggressively   testified  that  he  was                                                              
against  all forms  of black  bear  baiting and  Mr. Barrette,  in                                                              
response, wanted to  expand it to the month of July  and to extend                                                              
10  bait  stations  to the  commercial  guiding  industry  in  Mr.                                                              
Silas' area.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Regarding the  Central Alaska  caribou herd  along the  Haul Road,                                                              
Jack Reakoff,  co-chair of the state  AC and chair of  the federal                                                              
AC  in  that  region,  strongly   testified  against  raising  the                                                              
harvest limits  from two caribou  and he had very  good reasoning.                                                              
It was very difficult  to haul caribou the five miles  it takes to                                                              
get the  caribou through  the closed  corridor  and being  able to                                                              
shoot five  caribou was a big  problem. In response,  Mr. Barrette                                                              
aggressively  voted to raise  the take  and said  that all  of the                                                              
villages in that area don't even rely exclusively on caribou.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIS  said Mr.  Barrette also needs  to be cooperative  with                                                              
other  mandates that  are looking  to have  natural diversity  and                                                              
natural abundance, which is the mandate on federal lands.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:44:06 PM                                                                                                                    
BARBARA  WINKLEY,  representing  herself, Anchorage,  opposed  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment  to  the  Board  of Game.  Last  year,  in                                                              
particular,  she  was dismayed  at  the conversation  between  the                                                              
board members,  [ADF&G Commissioner]  Denby Lloyd and  Corey Rossi                                                              
who made light of  the fact that they were having  this "wonderful                                                              
snaring program  for black bears in  area 16 and there  would only                                                              
be a few brown  bear by-catch caught." They wanted  to teach young                                                              
children how  to kill these animals  who may have been  baited and                                                              
snared  for  up  to  two days  often  with  their  cubs  bellowing                                                              
nearby.  One  board  member  even  remarked  that  he  would  vote                                                              
against  every proposal  that looked  as  though a  member of  the                                                              
public had proposed it instead of their own recommendations.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
As a member  of the public, Ms.  Winkley said, and as  someone who                                                              
had  put  in  one  regulation  recommending  the  elimination  the                                                              
trapping  of  wolverine  in  Chugach State  Park,  she  felt  this                                                              
behavior  of  the  board  to  be   extremely  unprofessional.  Mr.                                                              
Barrette  has demonstrated  by his  previous comments  that he  is                                                              
opposed  to  rural  subsistence   and  supports  maximum  predator                                                              
elimination  without  any  concern   for  professional  biological                                                              
science. It's  time to have some  board members who  are concerned                                                              
about   sustainable    wildlife   resources    with   professional                                                              
background to support their decision.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:46:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MARYBETH HOLLEMAN,  representing  herself, Anchorage,  opposed Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment to  the Board  of Game.  At the  Fairbanks                                                              
board meeting  she saw firsthand  that he lacks  ethical integrity                                                              
and the  knowledge and  ability to  uphold the board's  regulatory                                                              
authority. He  voted on issues from  which he should  have recused                                                              
himself  because of  a conflict  of  interest. What  he failed  to                                                              
tell them  is that  he did  recuse himself  from several  votes at                                                              
the  Fairbanks meeting  for which  he knew  he had  a conflict  of                                                              
interest. So,  he does know  how to do  that and should  have done                                                              
that  with  the Denali  buffer.  He  made rude  and  disrespectful                                                              
remarks  to  the  National  Park   Service  staff  and  to  Alaska                                                              
citizens  who  appeared  before  the board  to  testify.  He  made                                                              
comments  which revealed  a lack  of knowledge  of basic  wildlife                                                              
management  and  Alaska  wildlife  issues.  He  has  a  record  of                                                              
denying rural and Native subsistence uses.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOLLEMAN  said many Alaskans  are disgusted with just  how far                                                              
out  of touch  this Board  of  Game has  become  and Mr.  Barrette                                                              
pulls it even  further away from Alaskans and  towards the special                                                              
interest  groups,  Alaska  Outdoor  Council  and  Alaska  Trappers                                                              
Association.  He is another  white urban  hunter/trapper  from the                                                              
Fairbanks  area  leaving  no  representation   for  South  Central                                                              
Alaska and little for rural and Alaska Natives.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOLLEMAN  said the board  is lopsided  now due to  its extreme                                                              
consumptive  use  position; it's  hard  for those  with  different                                                              
viewpoints  to   testify  before   them.  She  related   that  Mr.                                                              
Barrette,  in  particular,  was  disrespectful  to  her  when  she                                                              
testified.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:48:47 PM                                                                                                                    
GERALD  BROOKMAN,   representing  himself,  Kenai,   said  he  has                                                              
resided  in Alaska  since 1957  and has  successfully hunted  both                                                              
small  and big  game during  his  residency here.  He opposed  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment to  the Board  of Game.  His views  on the                                                              
taking of  game and  furbearers seem  to be  very liberal  but his                                                              
view  concerning  Natives subsistence  use  for the  state's  game                                                              
resources seems  to be very  restrictive if not  outright hostile.                                                              
In  addition,  his  business interests  appear  to  conflict  with                                                              
membership on the board and don't pass "the smell test."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:49:55 PM                                                                                                                    
DANE  CROWLEY,   Executive  Director,   Sportsmen  for   Fish  and                                                              
Wildlife,  supported Mr.  Barrett's  appointment to  the Board  of                                                              
Game. His  membership includes both  urban and rural  Alaskans and                                                              
they  believe that  "abundance management"  solves the  allocation                                                              
issues  that have  come  up. The  conflict  of  interest issue  is                                                              
manufactured. Mr.  Barrette researches and understands  the issues                                                              
and he  is for the  abundance management  principle and  access to                                                              
that resource. He  also understands that the State  of Alaska owns                                                              
the wildlife  solely in the state  and the federal  government has                                                              
zero  management  authority  over  any  fish  and  game  resources                                                              
including wolves "in and around any buffer zone or preserve."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:52:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI mentioned  that people  can submit  written                                                              
testimony to him or any of the committee members.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:52:25 PM                                                                                                                    
KENNY  BARBER, representing  himself, Palmer,  said he  is a  past                                                              
member  of  the   Matsu  Advisory  Committee  and   supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment to  the Board  of Game,  because he  "goes                                                              
with"  the  public's  views  and  with  what  the  Fish  and  Game                                                              
Advisory Committees have to say.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:53:00 PM                                                                                                                    
PATTI  BARBER,   representing  herself,   Palmer,  supported   Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment to the Board of Game.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:53:20 PM                                                                                                                    
NICOLE  FLISS,   representing  herself,  Fairbanks,   opposed  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment  to the Board of Game. Many  of the reasons                                                              
for  opposing   this  confirmation   have  already   been  clearly                                                              
explained by  other citizens and  organizations; they  include his                                                              
puzzling  use  of   scripture  to  support  his   game  management                                                              
philosophy,  his   support  of  bear  snaring,  his   advocacy  to                                                              
eliminate  guide requirements  for  brown bears,  his advocacy  to                                                              
bait  brown  bears,  his  desire  to  reclassify  brown  bears  as                                                              
predators  and   thus  the  need   to  control  them,   his  clear                                                              
misunderstanding of  the amounts necessary for  subsistence (shown                                                              
by  his votes  to allocate  priorities  to non-resident  hunters),                                                              
his  direct  involvement and  misuse  of  his influence  with  the                                                              
Board  of Game  to push  HB 267  solely to  markedly decrease  the                                                              
size of  the Central Arctic caribou  herd, and his  derogatory use                                                              
of  the  term  "preservationist,"  a label  he  uses  to  describe                                                              
people like herself.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FLISS  said  she  is  a  professional  and  an  advocate  for                                                              
wilderness  and for  balance in  game  management; she  is also  a                                                              
hunter and relies  on game meat as her main source  of protein for                                                              
her family.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FLISS said  the state  has  been on  an extreme  unscientific                                                              
game  management  path  since  Governor  Murkowski  and  got  more                                                              
extreme with  Governor Palin.  Unfortunately Governor  Parnell has                                                              
chosen to  stay on that path;  his appointment of Mr.  Barrette is                                                              
"an  exclamation  point  on  Alaska's  radical  path  of  predator                                                              
control." She  said this is where  the legislature can  "slow this                                                              
freight train."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:55:54 PM                                                                                                                    
BYRON   HALEY,   President,  Chitna   Dip   Netters   Association,                                                              
Fairbanks, supported  Mr. Barrette's  appointment to the  Board of                                                              
Game.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:56:30 PM                                                                                                                    
VINCE  HOLTON,  Director,  Operations for  Alaska  Monitoring  the                                                              
Drug Testing, Fairbanks,  supported Mr. Barrette's  appointment to                                                              
the  Board  of  Game.  He met  Mr.  Barrette  last  fall  when  he                                                              
authored  three  separate proposals  to  the  Board of  Game  this                                                              
year.  Mr. Barrette  was very  helpful in  explaining the  process                                                              
and working  with him  in understanding  why the proposals  didn't                                                              
pass.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He said many of  the proposals Mr. Barrette voted  on were written                                                              
by the  ADF&G and based  on their  biological data.  For instance,                                                              
his vote  in opposition to  the North Slope  caribou herd,  it has                                                              
been stated by the  department many times over the  last year that                                                              
they are  simply not meeting the  herd management quota  and "that                                                              
the  herd  is getting  out  of  hand  and that  the  increase  was                                                              
necessary."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:58:16 PM                                                                                                                    
ROGGIE  HUNTER, representing  himself, North  Pole, supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment  to the Board  of Game. He worked  with him                                                              
for two  years on the Fairbanks  Advisory Committee and  he always                                                              
did his homework,  knew the issues  when they came to  a vote, and                                                              
he listened  to the  ADF&G science, the  public's comments  and to                                                              
the  fish and  game advisory  committees.  A lot  of the  negative                                                              
testimony is either manufactured or exaggerated, he said.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:59:08 PM                                                                                                                    
WILLIAM  LARRY,  representing himself,  Fairbanks,  supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment  to the Board  of Game. He has  worked with                                                              
Mr.  Barrette on  an advisory  committee  for over  six years  and                                                              
thought  that  he did  "a  tremendous  job,"  not that  he  always                                                              
agreed with him. He always "dug into everything."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARRY  said  that  any Fairbanks  people  voted  to  get  Mr.                                                              
Barrette on the  advisory committee; it wasn't on just  a whim. In                                                              
"no way" does  he want to wipe  out wolves or bears,  because as a                                                              
trapper  if they  are  all gone  he doesn't  have  an income.  His                                                              
business is  small and he  doesn't have  that much income;  he and                                                              
his  family are  very into  the subsistence  way of  life. He's  a                                                              
berry picker and a photographer.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:00:39 PM                                                                                                                    
THOR  STACEY,  representing   himself,  Wiseman,  said   he  is  a                                                              
registered  hunting guide  in Alaska  and  opposed Mr.  Barrette's                                                              
appointment to  the Board of  Game. He  said he has  hunting areas                                                              
near  the  National  Wildlife  Refuge   and  the  Kanuti  National                                                              
Wildlife Refuge.  His opposition is  mainly resource based  and he                                                              
has seriously  concerns about  Mr. Barrette's  ability to  perform                                                              
on the board because it is supposed to allocate the resource.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
His specific issue  is with HB 267, which Mr.  Barrette petitioned                                                              
the Board  of Game  to support  before he  was appointed  and then                                                              
after being appointed  he was able to induce the  board to vote on                                                              
during  a closed  session.  There  was no  public  comment or  any                                                              
other opportunity  to comment on it.  It is not the function  of a                                                              
governor-appointed  board to support  legislation. Because  of Mr.                                                              
Barrette's actions with  HB 267 he falls under the  category of an                                                              
activist and  they don't  want activists on  the board.  They want                                                              
people who  are responsible  public servants  to contribute  their                                                              
knowledge  and  who will  go  through  the  public process.    Mr.                                                              
Barrette used  his position to  push legislation, and  he believes                                                              
Mr. Barrette will  continue his activist position on  a variety of                                                              
issues regarding game management in Alaska if he is confirmed.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:03:30 PM                                                                                                                    
NICK  JANS, Juneau  resident, opposed  Mr. Barrette's  appointment                                                              
to the  Board of  Game. Mr.  Jans said  he is  a full-time  Alaska                                                              
writer and photography;  he is a long-time hunter  and trapper who                                                              
lived in remote  Eskimo villages in Northwest Alaska  for half his                                                              
life.  He shared  actively in  the  Inupiat subsistence  lifestyle                                                              
for two decades  and worked as a  packer for a big game  guide. He                                                              
does not  oppose predator control  supported by rigorous  science,                                                              
and  he  always  has  wild  meat  and  fish  in  his  freezer  and                                                              
understands  that as  a true  Alaska  way of  life.   And yet  Mr.                                                              
Barrette  "does   not  come  close  to  representing"   him.  This                                                              
conclusion is  not based  on what Mr.  Barrette or his  supporters                                                              
may say, but  upon his clear record regarding  wildlife management                                                              
issues.  Mr.  Barrette  has consistently  favored  proposals  that                                                              
oppose rural  subsistence values and  has even scoffed at  them on                                                              
the  record. He  favored  a handful  of  local  trappers over  the                                                              
staggering  economic  value of  the  park's  wolves as  a  tourist                                                              
attraction.  He  has supported  or  introduced measures  that  the                                                              
rest  of  the  board  unanimously  opposed  as  too  radical,  has                                                              
promoted  sport   hunter  access  and   taking  at  the   cost  of                                                              
sustainable wildlife conservation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JANS said  he finds  Mr. Barrette  singularly unqualified  to                                                              
fairly  represent the  interests  of all  Alaskans,  he finds  his                                                              
blatant on-the-record  support of anti-subsistence to  be the most                                                              
egregious.  He  has demonstrated his disregard  for that lifestyle                                                              
and  welfare over  that  of  non-residents or  non-local  resident                                                              
hunters.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:05:40 PM                                                                                                                    
VIC  WALKER,   representing   himself,  Juneau,   said  he   is  a                                                              
veterinarian,  and  opposed  Mr.  Barrette's  appointment  to  the                                                              
Board  of  Game.  The Alaska  Constitution  states  that  wildlife                                                              
should be managed  for the benefit of all Alaskans  - subsistence,                                                              
sports hunting,  trapping,  as well as  non-consumptive uses  like                                                              
wildlife viewing.  He said  the Board of  Game currently  does not                                                              
represent  the diverse  needs of  all or even  most Alaskans.  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  voting  record at  the  recent board  meeting  favored                                                              
sport hunters  and trappers,  including his  own tannery  and wolf                                                              
trap business  over the needs  of subsistence and  non-consumptive                                                              
users.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
After voting to  revoke the Denali wolf buffer  zone, Mr. Barrette                                                              
petitioned the  board to  authorize the use  of snow  machines the                                                              
wolves  in  the   old  buffer  zone.  Other  board   members  were                                                              
unanimously  opposed  to  this.  Further,  Mr.  Walker  said,  Mr.                                                              
Barrette is the  only board member who voted  to authorize baiting                                                              
of brown  bears for  sport hunting.  There are  other examples  of                                                              
that ilk and the pattern is clear; his positions are extreme.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:07:33 PM                                                                                                                    
GREG  BROWN, representing  himself,  said he  owns  a small  whale                                                              
watching   business  in   Juneau   and  opposed   Mr.   Barrette's                                                              
appointment to  the Board  of Game. He  said the hunting  industry                                                              
in  Alaska is  about a  $124 million  industry and  it is  sinking                                                              
like a  rock. Big  game tags  for the  last 10  years are  down 39                                                              
percent,  out-of-state  hunting   license  are  down  29  percent,                                                              
instate  hunting licenses  are down  8 percent,  and less  than 20                                                              
percent of Alaskans hunt.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  said wildlife  viewing in  Alaska is  a $581-million  business                                                              
today and  it's growing at  6-10 percent  a year. It's  five times                                                              
what the  hunting business is, which  seems big until you  look at                                                              
the national numbers.  In the Lower 48, wildlife viewing  is a $29                                                              
billion business  and it is  growing at  a 4-10 percent  rate. But                                                              
Alaska is  not in  the top half  of the  United States  for animal                                                              
viewing and it is the best state in the world for animals.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He said  Mr. Barrette  supports elimination  of the Denali  buffer                                                              
zone;  this  puts   at  risk  $63  million  and   420,000  Alaskan                                                              
visitors.  He supports  aerial  hunting and  snow  mobile use  for                                                              
wolves;  he  supports   baiting  and  snaring.  Alaska   is  being                                                              
boycotted because of  what the Board of Game seems  to be doing. A                                                              
professional  guide  in  Anchorage   said  not  to  worry  because                                                              
boycotts never  work in Alaska,  and it wouldn't affect  2 percent                                                              
of his  business. But 2  percent of $581  million is  $12 million,                                                              
more  than twice  the value  of  all the  big game  tags, all  the                                                              
resident hunting tags and all the out of state tags combined.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROWN said,  "Eco tourism is a sustainable  money pipeline for                                                              
Alaska," and  the numbers  show it. If  Mr. Barrette  is confirmed                                                              
it will  send a clear  message to thousands  of Alaskans  who work                                                              
in  this  $581 million  non-consumptive  animal  viewing  business                                                              
that their constitutional rights are not being protected.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:09:54 PM                                                                                                                    
TINA BROWN, representing  herself, Juneau, opposed  Mr. Barrette's                                                              
appointment to the  Board of Game for most of  the reasons already                                                              
stated. She had  a big concern about rural and  Native subsistence                                                              
needs that Mr.  Barrette doesn't seem to address.  She pointed out                                                              
that nature  seemed to do  just fine before  he "came  around with                                                              
his management  policies." He ignored  the wishes of  over 100,000                                                              
park visitors  and  Alaskans in  the Denali buffer  zone issue  to                                                              
favor  three or  four  trappers. He  says he  listens  to all  the                                                              
people,  but  if you  look  at  the  numbers  of people  who  were                                                              
opposed to eliminating that buffer zone, that doesn't pan out.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barrette's church  and state comment in  "Backpacker Magazine"                                                              
is  another   example  of  his   bad  judgment.  He   patents  and                                                              
manufactures wolf traps,  he owns a fur tannery,  and according to                                                              
the ADF&G  website, in 2006 he  received the first  gunners permit                                                              
in  the then  newest  predator  management  program. He  does  not                                                              
represent all  of the people of  Alaska; fewer than 20  percent of                                                              
Alaskans  have a  hunting  license  and more  than  80 percent  of                                                              
Alaskans are non-consumptive users.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:12:28 PM                                                                                                                    
ROD ARNO,  Executive Director,  Alaska Outdoor Council,  supported                                                              
Mr. Barrette's appointment  to the Board of Game. He  comes to the                                                              
meetings prepared and  that serves the public interest.  In the 20                                                              
years  he has  gone to  Board of  Game  meetings he  has seen  Mr.                                                              
Barrette advocate  for sound science management and  food security                                                              
for all Alaskans  whether they are rural or urban,  Native or non-                                                              
Native. The  truth is they are  having a problem  implementing the                                                              
Tier  2  management,   and  are  working  with   the  Division  of                                                              
Subsistence.  Suggestions  have  been  put forward  but  they  are                                                              
waiting  for more  data.  Mr. Arno  said  the  Haul Road  corridor                                                              
issue had  nothing to do with  allocation but rather  with vehicle                                                              
access.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:14:59 PM                                                                                                                    
RICK  STEINER,   representing  himself,  Anchorage,   opposed  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment  to  the   Board  of  Game.  Although  Mr.                                                              
Barrette characterized  his problem as  being one of his  votes at                                                              
the  Fairbanks   board  meeting,   it  isn't.  It's   the  general                                                              
underlying  philosophy  that  is already  well  represented  there                                                              
that he brings.  He asked them to  consider what it would  be like                                                              
if  the board  had  representatives from  the  Sierra Club,  Green                                                              
Peace,  Friends  of  Animals, Defenders  of  Wildlife,  and  Earth                                                              
First,  and  then the  governor  has  an  open seat  and  appoints                                                              
someone  from PITA.  That  is precisely  what  has happened  here,                                                              
although on  the other  political arm in  the spectrum.  People on                                                              
the environmental  side would feel  ashamed if a governor  were to                                                              
do that and he  is stunned that the consumptive use  side does not                                                              
feel  "utterly ashamed"  at  the  notion that  you  cannot have  a                                                              
balanced  Board of  Game.  Generally, people  that  are afraid  of                                                              
balanced  dialogue  and  deliberation  lack  confidence  in  their                                                              
perspective.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:16:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN joined the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
STEVEN  FLORY,  representing  himself,  Anchorage,  said he  is  a                                                              
former chair  of the Anchorage  Fish and Game Advisory  Committee.                                                              
He got off  of it and recently  got put back on it  - because some                                                              
former members  thought it  was a good  idea to expand  the buffer                                                              
zone.  Both  sides  put  as  many people  as  they  could  up  for                                                              
election; and  the other side lost.  Now they are  screaming foul.                                                              
He said  the buffer  zone is a  minor detail  in all these  votes.                                                              
The fact is, had  Mr. Barrette not voted, it would  been a 3X3 tie                                                              
across the  board and  the buffer zone  would have disappeared  by                                                              
sunset law anyway.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FLORY said  some  members seem  to feel  Mr.  Barrette has  a                                                              
conflict  of interest, but  under that  scenario having  attorneys                                                              
in Juneau pass  laws that they later  litigate would have  to be a                                                              
conflict  as   well.  Several  other   things  -   the  department                                                              
recommended 10 bait  stations for guides, and other  members voted                                                              
for  it.  In  fact  some  of  his  votes  were  the  same  as  Mr.                                                              
Grussendorf's and he wasn't asked these questions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:19:58 PM                                                                                                                    
AARON  BLOOMQUIST,  Chairman,  Anchorage  Fish and  Game  Advisory                                                              
Committee, supported  Mr. Barrette's  appointment to the  Board of                                                              
Game. He  first met Mr.  Barrette at the  Anchorage Board  of Game                                                              
meeting in January  where they spent some time  discussing various                                                              
wildlife issues.  He found him  easy to get  along with and  he is                                                              
one of  the most open  and accessible board  members he  has dealt                                                              
with. At  the Fairbanks meeting he  never missed a chance  to talk                                                              
to various  members of  the public  from all  sides of  the issues                                                              
during the breaks  as well as after hours. Mr.  Barrette would not                                                              
refuse to meet with anyone who asked.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLOOMQUIST  said the Board of  Game is an allocative  body and                                                              
so at times  people will be  mad. Mr. Barrette brings  a trapper's                                                              
perspective to  the board that has  been missing for a  while. The                                                              
other  members  have  also expressed  their  appreciation  of  his                                                              
point of  view at the Fairbanks  meetings stating that  he brought                                                              
up  several  points  that  have not  been  discussed  at  previous                                                              
meetings. Serious  trapping has  sustained Alaskans  for thousands                                                              
of years  and predates  any other economic  activity in  the state                                                              
and  Mr. Bloomquist  believed it  is  a really  valuable point  of                                                              
view to  have on  the board.  Mr. Barrette  has contact  with more                                                              
serious  trappers  than nearly  any  other individual  in  Alaska.                                                              
Some  have   tried  to  insinuate   that  Mr.  Barrette   is  anti                                                              
subsistence, but  he hoped the  committee would recognize  this as                                                              
divide and  conquer strategy.  All of those  that have  brought up                                                              
certain votes against  customary and traditional  findings are not                                                              
subsistence users,  but the usual suspects from  the anti-predator                                                              
control and  anti-consumptive  crowd that  could really care  less                                                              
about subsistence.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He  said if  "Al"  is  unqualified  to be  on  the Board  of  Game                                                              
because of  his business,  then six  of the  seven members  of the                                                              
Board of  Fisheries are  also unqualified  as probably  members of                                                              
most of the state's other boards.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:22:58 PM                                                                                                                    
NANCY  BALE,  representing  herself,  Anchorage,  said  she  is  a                                                              
school nurse,  and from 1971-1993,  she lived and worked  near and                                                              
in  Denali National  Park. She  became chair  of the  "grassroots"                                                              
Denali Citizens'  Council that  brought a  proposal to  extend the                                                              
wolf buffer  (proposal 55) to the  board. She emphasized  that the                                                              
proposal had  gone through  a public  process with local  citizens                                                              
and  that  they were  "open  and  honest."  Her problem  with  Mr.                                                              
Barrette  is in  two  areas; first  she is  not  convinced he  has                                                              
completely  avoided a conflict  of interest  problem with  respect                                                              
to his  vote on Denali  wolf buffers. It's  all right to  have the                                                              
owner of  a trapping  and tannery  business on  the board,  but he                                                              
has  to  be extremely  specific  about  recusing  themselves  from                                                              
certain votes from which he would financially benefit.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:25:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MIKE TINKER, Fairbanks  Advisory Committee, Esther,  supported Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment  to  the   Board  of  Game.  He  said  Mr.                                                              
Barrette  served with  the  committee  for the  last  five or  six                                                              
years  and had  an excellent  attendance  record and  was a  great                                                              
participant.  He asked  great  questions on  the  issues and  gave                                                              
them complete  reviews and discussions  while he was the  chair of                                                              
the trapping  subcommittee.  He said advisory  committees  have to                                                              
pay a  lot more attention  to the intensive management  provisions                                                              
in  Title 16  that deal  with predator  control, and  most of  the                                                              
people testifying today should read it.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. TINKER  said Mr.  Barrette recused  himself from proposals  he                                                              
prepared or  submitted. He is  also just one  of a group  of seven                                                              
who  worked  on these  proposals,  many  of  which were  from  the                                                              
ADF&G; yet he is getting all the blame.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:28:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CRAIG  COMPEAU,   representing  himself,   said  he  is   a  local                                                              
businessman and  member of a  four-generation Alaskan  family, and                                                              
he supported Mr.  Barrette's appointment to the Board  of Game. He                                                              
has watched Mr.  Barrette "in action" on the  local advisory board                                                              
and  was impressed  with  his participation,  professionalism  and                                                              
honest  consideration  for  all sides  of  the  issues. He  is  an                                                              
independent  thinker  and  very  informed and  articulate  on  the                                                              
boards  and committees  he has  volunteered to  join. Many  people                                                              
who  oppose  his  appointment are  using  desperate  measures  and                                                              
untruths to "undermine a decent Alaskan."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:30:25 PM                                                                                                                    
RANDY ZARNKE,  President, Alaska  Trappers Association,  supported                                                              
Mr.  Barrette's appointment  to the  Board of  Game. Mr.  Barrette                                                              
has been  interested in wildlife  since he arrived in  Alaska, but                                                              
he  has  taken  his efforts  well  beyond  personal  interest.  He                                                              
educated  himself   about  biological  principals   including  the                                                              
mechanisms  which  cause  wildlife  populations  to  increase  and                                                              
decrease.  In  addition,  he  has  learned  the  system  by  which                                                              
hunting  and  trapping  regulations   are  adopted  (the  advisory                                                              
committee and game board process).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:31:14 PM                                                                                                                    
BILL BREWER, representing  himself, Fairbanks, said he  is a long-                                                              
time   trapper   and  hunter,   and   supported   Mr.   Barrette's                                                              
appointment  to the  Board of Game.  He has  enjoyed working  with                                                              
him  over the  last several  years. He  is a  "vast storehouse  of                                                              
information"  as it  applies  in the  field  and in  his shop.  He                                                              
spends a  great deal  of time  in the  field and interacting  with                                                              
the many  other trappers and  hunters that are  in and out  of his                                                              
store. This collection  of information is invaluable  to the Board                                                              
of  Game and  to the  residents  of this  state  whether they  are                                                              
consumptive users or non-consumptive users. A lot of non-                                                                       
consumptive  users  fail  to  see  the  state  could  have  higher                                                              
wildlife  populations and  more prey  animals if  "we just  manage                                                              
our wildlife per the State Constitution."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:33:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MELVIN  GROVE,  representing  himself,  Big  Lake, said  he  is  a                                                              
member  of  the   Matsu  Fish  and  Game  Advisory   Council  that                                                              
unanimously supported  Mr. Barrette's appointment to  the Board of                                                              
Game. He  didn't want to  think that the  AC was wasting  its time                                                              
in  advising  the  Board  of Game,  and  he  appreciated  how  Mr.                                                              
Barrette  looked  at their  recommendations  -  one of  which  was                                                              
their unanimous vote  to close the buffer zones. They  are also in                                                              
favor of all the predator control management programs.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:36:01 PM                                                                                                                    
KELLY WALTERS, representing  himself, Anchorage, said  he is a 19-                                                              
year  Alaskan hunter  and fisherman,  and  opposed Mr.  Barrette's                                                              
appointment  to  the  Board  of Game.  "He  is  a  walking/talking                                                              
conflict  of interest with  a clear  obvious unambiguous  conflict                                                              
with  his two  companies that  were  discussed." He  knows how  to                                                              
recuse himself from  the vote as he did on the  72-hour trap check                                                              
due to  an on-record  statement of his  profit conflict.  While on                                                              
the Board  of Game  he approved  10 black  bear bait stations  per                                                              
commercial guide,  and tanning those  pelts at $200  each wouldn't                                                              
take long to reach the $2,000 limit.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He said  Mr. Barrette  also has an  aggressive record  of opposing                                                              
the  rural  and  Native  subsistence  priority.  He  said  if  Mr.                                                              
Barrette  is  confirmed  the  largest  population  center  in  the                                                              
state, Anchorage,  will go  unrepresented. The Anchorage  Advisory                                                              
Council  has  already been  overrun  with  people from  the  Matsu                                                              
Valley who already have their own AC.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WALTERS said  he is  very concerned  with  the direction  the                                                              
ADF&G and the Board  of Game is taking; they seem to  be on a path                                                              
of  science denial.  He  didn't like  Mr.  Barrette's reliance  on                                                              
scripture for game management.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:38:32 PM                                                                                                                    
LYNETTE  MORENO-HINZ,  representing  herself,  Anchorage,  opposed                                                              
Mr. Barrette's  appointment  to the  Board of  Game. She drives  a                                                              
cab and sees  people from all over  the world who come  up here to                                                              
take photographs  and  enjoy the  wildlife. She  did not like  the                                                              
use  of  the wolf  predator  control  program  to keep  moose  and                                                              
caribou populations  up. Mr. Barrette's business is  a conflict of                                                              
interest, and the board needs subsistence representation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:41:44 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID  TURNBULL,  representing  himself,  Anchorage,  opposed  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment  to the  Board  of  Game for  the  reasons                                                              
already  mentioned. Bob  Bell told  him that  Mr. Barrette  is "an                                                              
extremist."  He thought the  Board of  Game's decisions  should be                                                              
based  on  science and  not  on  the financial  interests  of  its                                                              
members - who  might own a bear  tannery or trapping company  - or                                                              
on religious beliefs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:42:36 PM                                                                                                                    
YOLANDA DE LA  CRUZ, representing herself, Anchorage,  opposed Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment  to the Board of Game for  all the previous                                                              
reasons. He  has a "lot of  conflict of interest in  wildlife." He                                                              
has no  respect for wildlife  or for the  "fair chase."  She wants                                                              
diversity  on the  Board of  Game and  for members  to make  their                                                              
decisions based on science.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:44:53 PM                                                                                                                    
DICK  BISHOP,  representing  himself,   Fairbanks,  supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment to  the Board  of Game.  He has  integrity                                                              
and is  dedicated to the best  interests of wildlife  and Alaskans                                                              
consistent  with the  Alaska  Constitution,  which emphasizes  and                                                              
demands common  use and equal access  to those resources.  It does                                                              
not include  a rural or Native  priority. He strongly  objected to                                                              
the  personal  attacks, character  assassination  and  intolerance                                                              
expressed by some people who oppose his confirmation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIAN SIMPSON, representing  himself, Fairbanks, said  he is a 30-                                                              
year  resident, has  a  master guide  license,  and supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment  to the Board  of Game. His first  15 years                                                              
were spent  subsistence trapping  and hunting  in the  Upper Yukon                                                              
region. He  has had  to go before  the board  many times  over the                                                              
years and appreciated  Mr. Barrette's listening and  coming to the                                                              
meetings  prepared.  He  said  "this  character  assassination  is                                                              
absolutely disgusting."  Mr. Barrette  should be appointed  on his                                                              
merits and the emotional hyperbole should be discounted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:47:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHUCK  GRAY,   representing  himself,  Fairbanks,   supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment  to  the  Board of  Game.  Intensive  game                                                              
management is the  law of the land and even though  the department                                                              
has been  slow to  implement it,  Mr. Barrette  could help  get it                                                              
going. If  non-consumptive users think  this is not in  their best                                                              
interest, it  surely is, because more  game would be good  for the                                                              
hunters  that go  afield for  a couple  weeks a year  but for  the                                                              
non-consumptive users  as well who could view  the additional game                                                              
year-round.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:49:15 PM                                                                                                                    
DICK BURLEY,  representing himself,  Fairbanks, said he  served on                                                              
the Board  of Game  for nine  years and  supported Mr.  Barrette's                                                              
appointment to it.  People used to ask him why he  wanted to serve                                                              
on the  Board of Game  and his comment  was that it  gave complete                                                              
strangers a  chance to hate him,  but it certainly looks  like Mr.                                                              
Barrette takes the  prize there. It has been a long  time since he                                                              
has  seen  a  character  assassination   like  this  -  especially                                                              
because of  one or  two votes. Had  Mr. Barrette excluded  himself                                                              
from voting  on the  Denali buffer  zone it  would have  sunsetted                                                              
anyway because the vote was 3X3.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
As far  as subsistence goes,  changes that  are made by  the board                                                              
to  the amount  necessary  for  subsistence  is usually  based  on                                                              
information  that  is provided  by  the Division  of  Subsistence.                                                              
Sometimes  when  those  amounts   were  set  they  were  set  with                                                              
incomplete data; and  as the division gathered more  and more data                                                              
those  things  get revisited  and  are  subject  to change.    The                                                              
simple fact  that a change  was made in  the amount  necessary for                                                              
subsistence doesn't  mean that  Mr. Barrette is  anti-subsistence.                                                              
It was  based on  good information  and other  board members  made                                                              
the same decision.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:52:39 PM                                                                                                                    
FRANK  ENTSMINGER,   representing  himself,  Tok,   supported  Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment to  the Board  of Game.  He said  he is  a                                                              
current member of  the Upper Tanana Forty-Mile  Advisory Committee                                                              
and said  that having  people like  Mr. Barrette  on the  board is                                                              
very important  to those  who live in  rural Alaska.  He commended                                                              
the  board  for  its actions  on  "a  fairly  aggressive  predator                                                              
control program that is starting to pay off."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRENT KEITH, representing  himself, said he is  a 30-year resident                                                              
of Healy  and supported  Mr. Barrette's  appointment to  the Board                                                              
of Game. Mr. Keith  said he lived within Denali  National Park for                                                              
several  years  and  is  chairman   of  the  Middle  Nenana  River                                                              
Advisory Committee and has been on it for the last 21 years.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Apparently,  Mr.  Keith  said,  he  is  one  of  the  four  "rogue                                                              
trappers" that  was mentioned.  He stated  there is no  biological                                                              
reason to have the  buffer zone in this area; he  said they should                                                              
plug the  traditional denning holes  in the buffer zone  and "move                                                              
'em  into the  core part  of  the park."  He  highly doubted  that                                                              
Alaska would  be boycotted  because of it.  They need  to remember                                                              
that  hunters   and  trappers   are  conservationists   first  and                                                              
foremost. It  doesn't do them  any good  to "trap it  out" because                                                              
further down  the line  they don't have  any resource  to utilize.                                                              
The same goes for hunting.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:56:10 PM                                                                                                                    
JACK REAKOFF,  representing himself,  said he  is co-chair  of the                                                              
Koyukuk  River  Advisory  Committee  and  opposed  Mr.  Barrette's                                                              
appointment to  the Board of Game.  The primary reason  is that he                                                              
voted many  times to  reduce Alaskans  preference for  harvest; he                                                              
voted  for high allocations  of  bag limits and  seasons for  non-                                                              
residents   almost  simultaneously.   This   violates  the   State                                                              
Constitution  and statutes  that mandate  resident preference.  He                                                              
said this reallocation  problem is rampant with  the current board                                                              
makeup.  Abundance management  does  not justify  reallocation  to                                                              
non-residents or reduction of Alaskans' uses.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:58:35 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS joined the committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:58:42 PM                                                                                                                    
HANNA   RAGELIN,   representing   herself,  Healy,   opposed   Mr.                                                              
Barrette's  appointment  to the  Board  of Game.  His  appointment                                                              
would  perpetuate  a board  that  is slanted  towards  consumptive                                                              
uses.  She  was  also concerned  about  his  disregard  for  local                                                              
opinions and sound  science on several issues that  were raised at                                                              
the  Fairbanks   Board  of  Game   meeting.  She   wanted  someone                                                              
appointed  who  "is  more  willing  to  search  out  or  at  least                                                              
recognize opposing views in order to make fair decisions."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:00:06 PM                                                                                                                    
PAT  NOLIN,   representing  himself,   Fairbanks,  supported   Mr.                                                              
Barrette's appointment  to the Board of Game. He has  had a lot of                                                              
experience  and has  worked closer  with nature  than most  of the                                                              
people  talking. He  is  interested in  the  preservation of  "all                                                              
animal life for  generations forever." He read  about the biblical                                                              
comments, but  Mr. Nolin said  he believes  that God gave  us this                                                              
planet and these  animals to take care of and to  use. He believed                                                              
Al would do  that. And if you  are an Atheist, what  difference is                                                              
there between a  wolf killing a caribou or Mr.  Barrette killing a                                                              
wolf?                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:02:19 PM                                                                                                                    
JACOB BARRETTE,  representing  himself, Fairbanks,  said he  is 18                                                              
years old and he  supported his dad's appointment to  the Board of                                                              
Game. He is  dedicated to anything  he takes on and has  taken the                                                              
time to  teach him  and his friends  many things including  proper                                                              
care of animals  they have harvested  and how to respect  the land                                                              
by disturbing  it and  wildlife that  resides on  it as  little as                                                              
possible. "I think that he'd be an asset to the board."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:02:51 PM                                                                                                                    
TOM SCARBOROUGH,  representing  himself, Fairbanks,  said he  is a                                                              
45-year  resident  of  Alaska  and  was  chair  of  the  Fairbanks                                                              
Advisory Committee  back in the  90s. He supported  Mr. Barrette's                                                              
appointment to the  Board of Game. He said the Board  of Game sets                                                              
regulations for the  use of billions of dollars  worth of wildlife                                                              
across the  state. Regulation is  closely controlled by  the State                                                              
Constitution  and statutes  and  people are  needed  on the  board                                                              
that are  knowledgeable about Title  16 and the  Constitution, and                                                              
Mr. Barrette is  one of those. He is very dedicated  and will make                                                              
an excellent member of the Board of Game.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:03:48 PM                                                                                                                    
RAYMOND   HEUER,  chair,   Fairbanks   Fish   and  Game   Advisory                                                              
Committee, supported  Mr. Barrette's  appointment to the  Board of                                                              
Game. He  is impressed with  Mr. Barrette's broad  knowledge base,                                                              
his  approachability  and  reasonableness.  He  said  the  board's                                                              
actions  were   fairly  reasonable   and  they  listened   to  the                                                              
testimony that was given.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI closed  public testimony  and announced  an                                                              
at ease at from 6:06 - 6:07 p.m.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:07:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  called the meeting  back to order  and gave                                                              
Mr. Barrette an opportunity to respond to the testimony.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRETTE said  if people  want to  use his  record of  voting                                                              
they  should keep  it  in context:  look  at  everything that  was                                                              
presented  to them,  look at  who all  voted, and  if he was  just                                                              
commenting  on  issues  (part  of  parliamentary  procedure)  when                                                              
people accused him of making proposals.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:09:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI said  to all  the nominees.  "The Board  of                                                              
Game,  in  particular  is  a  tough   board  to  be  on."  And  he                                                              
appreciated  everyone who put  their names  forward. He  said that                                                              
people  have asked  the committee  to not  forward Mr.  Barrette's                                                              
name, but they can't stop it. It will go forward.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS moved  in accordance with AS 39.05.080  to forward                                                              
Mr. Barrette's  name to  the full  body as  an appointment  to the                                                              
Board of Game. This  did not reflect any intent by  the members to                                                              
vote for  or against the confirmations  of any of  the individuals                                                              
during any further  sessions. There were no objections  and it was                                                              
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:09:59 PM                                                                                                                    
Finding  no further  business to  come before  the committee,  Co-                                                              
Chair Wielechowski adjourned the meeting at 6:09 p.m.                                                                           

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